Friday, June 1, 2012
Grahanila(planetary positions) as on 1st June 2012
As on 1st June,2012 the Sun,Jupiter,Venus,Mercury & Ketu are in Taurus, Mars in Leo, Saturn & Moon in Virgo and Rahu in Scorpio. In May Grahanila itself it was pointed out the assembly of a number of planets in the presence of Ketu it will not be good for the whole world and world markets. You can see what happened during May 2012. That was with benevolent Jupiter one among them and in presence of less harmful Ketu. The same situation may repeat in Nov/Dec 2012 with out Jupiter and in presence of Rahu. Moon - Saturn(in retrograde) conjunction effect seen today with Nifty futures loosing 100 points. On 6th June Venus will pass through the disc of Sun like an ant moving through a golden plate. Don't try to see it by naked eyes - it may damage your eye sight. Use necessary protective measures. Such a Venus transit through the Sun disc(as seen from the earth) had taken place in June 2004 and after six months a massive earth quack and Tsunami struck the world. Do meditate and pray to have strength to face the natural calamities that may be due in Nov/Dec 2012.
After 1st June down days are on 18th,20th and 26th.
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thanks for the info...in advance about Nov dec 2012.....some big changes really coming during that time ...now what do u think about the chances of hitting the freak trade figure of 4504 in June...these freak trades have been very accurate in deciding the direction of markets ...am i right??
I had posted the 2004 chart before ....and updated the same thing now.....chartwise also we are doing something very similar....
http://markettechnicals-jonak.blogspot.com/
@ Jonak,
2004 period was a global credit expansion period. Prior to the bull market of 2003 to 2008 beginning, Indian Market had undergone a prolonged period of consolidation, reflected in the sideways in the charts of those days. Recovery from the 2009 low itself is a bear rally, which saw a double top above the 6000+ levels. The bear has now matured and grown more vicious with age. The subprime crisis has now morphed into sovereign crisis. Bull markets are born in periods of extreme pessimism ,hopelessness and most often chaos. The social mood has actually not deteriorated enough for a bull market birth. On the other hand, the next leg of the bear could be pretty serious-a longer term C wave if you like. The first confirmation will occur when the 2011 low of 4531 is broken.
Regarding the Venusian eclipse on June 06, 2012, this occurs in pairs-the first of this pair was on June 08, 2004.Before this, the last pair was in December 1874 and December 1882.Before that it was in 1761-69.
Seven Year War ended in 1763, in Britain. There were credit crises in 1763 and 1772.Bankruptcies multiplied.National debt rose from 98 million pounds in 1761 to 131 million pounds in 1767.Chronic food shortages led to public disorder. East India Company which was a blue chip then, which was upwards from 1766, crashed heavily bringing widespread losses.Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan lost the Mysore throne to the English, closer home.
1874-1882 marked the longest Economic depression in the US. The Panic of 1873 triggered a severe international economic depression in both Europe and the United States that lasted until 1879, and even longer in some countries. The depression is now known as the Long Depression.
In September 1873, the American economy entered a crisis. This followed a period of post-Civil War economic over-expansion that arose from the Northern railroad boom. It came at the end of a series of economic setbacks: the Black Friday panic of 1869, the Chicago fire of 1871, the outbreak of equine influenza in 1872, and demonetization of silver in 1873. In September 1873, Jay Cooke & Company, a major component of the United States banking establishment, found itself unable to market several million dollars in Northern Pacific Railway bonds. The failure of the Jay Cooke bank, followed quickly by that of Henry Clews, set off a chain reaction of bank failures and temporarily closed the New York stock market. The New York Stock Exchange closed for ten days starting 20 September. Of the country's 364 railroads, 89 went bankrupt. A total of 18,000 businesses failed between 1873 and 1875. Unemployment reached 14% by 1876. Construction work halted, wages were cut, real estate values fell and corporate profits vanished.
It is interesting to note that Uranus in Aries and Pluto in Capricorn were in a waxing square formation in 1874 to 1882 period, just like we have now .Incredibly Pluto was in Capricorn and Uranus was in Aries, in 1761 to 69 as well.
Tekkie Suresh
http://niftyastrotechnicals.blogspot.in/
@ Jonak,
2004 period was a global credit expansion period. Prior to the bull market of 2003 to 2008 beginning, Indian Market had undergone a prolonged period of consolidation, reflected in the sideways in the charts of those days. Recovery from the 2009 low itself is a bear rally, which saw a double top above the 6000+ levels. The bear has now matured and grown more vicious with age. The subprime crisis has now morphed into sovereign crisis. Bull markets are born in periods of extreme pessimism ,hopelessness and most often chaos. The social mood has actually not deteriorated enough for a bull market birth. On the other hand, the next leg of the bear could be pretty serious-a longer term C wave if you like. The first confirmation will occur when the 2011 low of 4531 is broken.
Regarding the Venusian eclipse on June 06, 2012, this occurs in pairs-the first of this pair was on June 08, 2004.Before this, the last pair was in December 1874 and December 1882.Before that it was in 1761-69.
Seven Year War ended in 1763, in Britain. There were credit crises in 1763 and 1772.Bankruptcies multiplied.National debt rose from 98 million pounds in 1761 to 131 million pounds in 1767.Chronic food shortages led to public disorder. East India Company which was a blue chip then, which was upwards from 1766, crashed heavily bringing widespread losses.Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan lost the Mysore throne to the English, closer home.
1874-1882 marked the longest Economic depression in the US. The Panic of 1873 triggered a severe international economic depression in both Europe and the United States that lasted until 1879, and even longer in some countries. The depression is now known as the Long Depression.
In September 1873, the American economy entered a crisis. This followed a period of post-Civil War economic over-expansion that arose from the Northern railroad boom. It came at the end of a series of economic setbacks: the Black Friday panic of 1869, the Chicago fire of 1871, the outbreak of equine influenza in 1872, and demonetization of silver in 1873. In September 1873, Jay Cooke & Company, a major component of the United States banking establishment, found itself unable to market several million dollars in Northern Pacific Railway bonds. The failure of the Jay Cooke bank, followed quickly by that of Henry Clews, set off a chain reaction of bank failures and temporarily closed the New York stock market. The New York Stock Exchange closed for ten days starting 20 September. Of the country's 364 railroads, 89 went bankrupt. A total of 18,000 businesses failed between 1873 and 1875. Unemployment reached 14% by 1876. Construction work halted, wages were cut, real estate values fell and corporate profits vanished.
It is interesting to note that Uranus in Aries and Pluto in Capricorn were in a waxing square formation in 1874 to 1882 period, just like we have now .Incredibly Pluto was in Capricorn and Uranus was in Aries, in 1761 to 69 as well.
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Tekkie Suresh
http://niftyastrotechnicals.blogspot.in/
@ jonak
( I continue my blog post. I have posted in your site as well.)
With this background, it appears that the Venus 8 year double eclipse leads to a credit expansion crest followed by severe deleveraging. Exactly in the middle period of 2004 to 2012,in 2008, all stock markets formed a crest. And have declined substantially since then. Since there are 7 square formations between Uranus and Pluto between June 24 2012 and March 2015, we may expect the international bear markets to end by 2015.
This is why I consider the recovery from 2009, as a bear rally. And the next big down move has probably begun.
Bala Sir is right in his observation that the Venus eclipse effect of June 2004 manifested as Tsunami more fully in December 2004. This is because eclipse effects generally take six months to manifest.
Currently we have three eclipses happening rather close together. Solar eclipse of May 20, lunar eclipse of June 04 and Venus eclipse of June 06, 2012. Surely the effect in six months time is going to be catastrophic.
Meditation, prayer, financial prudence, good judgement and willingness to help our fellow human beings are the need of the hour.
Tekkie Suresh
http://niftyastrotechnicals.blogspot.in/
Dear Suresh,
Thank you very much for the detailed comments in appropriate time. It shows your earnestness and deep study on the subject and analysis spanning centuries of market movements. Salute to your willingness to share the hard earned knowledge to fellow traders. Thanking you once more
dont u think we are in credit expansion right now too...considering the huge printing that ECB , BOJ, BOE, and offcourse the FED has undertaken .....dont u think the BEAR (if its started ).....can be setoff by Central Banker action.....we also have to consider that its a US presidential election year and consider the chart in this article ::
http://bbfinance.blogspot.com/2012/06/better-be-lucky-than-smart.html#comment-form:::::....
we have always rallied in US presidential election year
Dear Bala Sir,
Thank you for your kind words. I simply try to express whatever I am feeling.
Warm Regards,
Suresh
Dear Jonak,
There is a difference between the credit expansion of 2004 and the balance sheet expansion ( money printing) of 2009/10.In the former case money was in the hands of consumers, across the world.People were increasing their consumption and in many situations were lured to live beyond their means.Credit was easily available and debt was not a bad word. It was fashionable even.I am sure you recall the several cheap loan offers which used to hit our mail boxes with increasing frequency.Complex derivatives were an answer to the increasing competition among lenders of that period.In other words, the credit expansion I had mentioned was cheap money given by big bankers to consumers.
The Quantitative Easing which we had seen post 2008,was cheap money given to big bankers by sovereign entities through their Central Bankers.This was to prevent the liquidity in credit markets drying up and to prevent counter party risks.In other words in a clean set up several of these huge institutions would have failed and the stronger banks left over would have slowly helped the economy stabilize.A turning point came up when large institutions were thought to be " too big to fail" and were provided with humongous refinancing at incredible interest rates.What did these Institutions do? Instead of lending to consumers and SMEs at cheap rates, they ploughed their new found moolah into the markets, forex,equities,commodities, emerging markets et al.Their idea of course was to maximise their returns and try and plug the rather large hole left by sub prime crisis.Such buying can never create bull markets. This is because the wider market participation will always be absent.
See how these monies could do nothing to improve the economic situation? On the other hand global economies have started getting into crisis mode one after the other. Both QE1 and QE2 were coordinated central bank buying.They never could make any economy budge in any meaningful manner. Nikkei recently breached its 1983 low!All they caused were sudden and intermediate sharp multi month rallies. No bull market ever begins like that.
Tekkie Suresh
http://niftyastrotechnicals.blogspot.in/
Continuing from where I had left...
Another interesting factor is inter market divergence. All world markets made a high in March 2012. This high was not higher than the highs of 2011.Except for one market-the US Markets.They went on to make their all time highs post March 2012, whereas the other markets
(including Nifty) did not. This clearly has a correlation to the coming US Elections.QE3 or whatever will be announced and the US Markets may rally to all time highs once again.But a sympathetic movement in other markets is likely to be absent. This is because,the strongest currency currently is the US Dollar.
To quote the author of the blog link given by you,
'...I think we are not at the end game stage yet and we will see one more upswing before everything starts to unravel....." This precisely is my take as well. The only difference is the rally will be comparatively weak in other global markets.So the world may first break its 2011 low, followed by the US.Uranus and Pluto and Venus occultation will see to that.Let me hasten to add that there will be several opportunities to go long and profit by them, but the bias predominantly is to the short side.
To add another astro confirmation, from the past:08th October 65 to 29 June 66,when Uranus and Pluto were conjunct, DJIA made a significant high when Jupiter was in 23 Gemini.And a significant low when Jupiter entered Leo.
Jupiter is about to enter Gemini on June 11th 2012.All these positions are Sayana positions.
Warm Regards,
Suresh
Dear Suresh,
In Kerala heard only "Rahu swallowing Sun" on Grahana time and not Ketu. Now it is observed that the solar eclipse at Ketu is not seen properly in Kerala. So it seems Rahu is connected with Southern hemisphere and Ketu Northern. Now the congregation of planets is in Ketu and effect at US & Europe is more. So, in Nov/Dec the Indian markets may fall more than US & Europe.
Jupiter entered Taurus on 17th May this year. Therefore it will enter Gemini next year only.
Dear Suresh,
In Kerala heard only "Rahu swallowing Sun" on Grahana time and not Ketu. Now it is observed that the solar eclipse at Ketu is not seen properly in Kerala. So it seems Rahu is connected with Southern hemisphere and Ketu Northern. Now the congregation of planets is in Ketu and effect at US & Europe is more. So, in Nov/Dec the Indian markets may fall more than US & Europe.
Jupiter entered Taurus on 17th May this year. Therefore it will enter Gemini next year only.
Dear Bala Sir,
In Hindu temples, traditionally two kinds of Navagraha installations are followed;
Agama Pradishta and Vaidika Pradishta.
In Agama Pradishta, Surya occupies the central place, Chandra on Surya's east, Budha on his south, Brihaspati on his west, Shukra on his north, Mangala on his south-east, Shani on his south-west, Rahu on north-west and Ketu in the north-east. Temples such as Suryanar temple, Tiruvidadaimarudur, Tiruvaiyaru and Tiruchchirappalli follow this system.
In Vaidika Pradishta, Surya is still in the centre, but Shukra is in the east, Mangala in the south, Shani in the west, Brihaspati in the north, Chandra in the south-east, Rahu in the south-west, Ketu in the north-west and Budha in the north-east.
As per Vaasthu, Rahu is ascribed the South West direction and Ketu along with Brihaspati is allocated the North East direction.
So there may be something in your observation, after all! Ketu does seem to have a northern influence and Rahu a southern one.
Regarding the movement of Jupiter, I had used the Sayana position of the planet. What you had indicated is the Nirayana position. The difference between both our positions lies in the Ayanamsa calculations used for Nirayana.
Let me illustrate;
At 3.30 pm, today, June 05, 2012, Jupiter was in 28-32-06, in Taurus, as per Sayana position. Here the Ayanamsa position is zero.
As per a Nirayana position involving KP Ayanamsa,
Jupiter was in 04-35-42, in Taurus, at 15.30 hrs.
KP Ayanamsa value is 23 degrees 56 minutes and 24 seconds.
So the planets as seen in Sayana positions will be ahead of Nirayana positions. The difference between the positions will be in the Ayanamsa used. Of course there are several kinds of Ayanamsa values such as KP, Raman`s Ayanamsa, Lahiri Ayanamsa etc., So Jupiter will enter Gemini as per Sayana whereas as per Nirayana, it will enter only next year.
Both methods are correct. Over the years I had observed that markets have a certain rhythm to the Sayana positions as well. Especially various planetary aspects to one another.
The significatorship, stellar positions, sub lords etc., work only with Nirayana positions and KP Ayanamsa seems to work the best here. Vimshottari dasas also are applicable only in Nirayana positions.
Warm Regards,
Suresh
Dear Suresh,
"In Vaidika Pradishta, Surya is still in the centre, but Shukra is in the east, Mangala in the south, Shani in the west, Brihaspati in the north, Chandra in the south-east, Rahu in the south-west, Ketu in the north-west and Budha in the north-east." This is the system seen in temples around Trivandrum.
Another observation is "there will be Navagraha installations only if "Muruga" or "Hanuma" or both installations are there".
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